> "The thing is, we're trying to talk about the security of OpenBSD compared to its competition."
> "But you're trying to avoid letting anyone do that by saying only an attack against something in the default install you can do with a user account counts, which is absolutely ridiculous."
I don't know who "we" are. The question I asked another poster, where you decided to butt in, regarded escalation from an unprivileged position and nothing else.
Nobody but yourself said anything along the lines of "only attacks against things in the default install 'count'", nor drew drew up comparisons against "the competition". You clearly have some larger axe to grind, but you're doing it in a discourse playing out only in your head, without reading what others actually wrote.
We are the people having this discussion. That should be obvious. It's kind of funny you accused me of pretending to be baffled, lol. The irony.
You certainly had no issue discussing this top with me until I called out your claims/methodology as nonsense.
> The question I asked another poster, where you decided to butt in,
Welcome to the Internet!
> regarded escalation from an unprivileged position and nothing else.
Yes. And I pointed out why this is an absolutely nonsense approach. You realize getting root on OpenBSD is significantly easier than several other setups or Linux distro's you've probably never heard of, though, right?
So, what is it? Afraid to be wrong? You brought too much into the OpenBSD marketing, so now it's a sunk cost for your ego?
> Nobody but yourself said anything along the lines of "only attacks against things in the default install 'count'", nor drew drew up comparisons against "the competition".
This is exactly what you imply when you want to limit attacks to LPE's that require a user account, lol.
> You clearly have some larger axe to grind, but you're doing it in a discourse playing out only in your head, without reading what others actually wrote.
No axe to grind. Just calling out bad claims and reasoning.
Even now, you've successfully got us discussing semantics and nonsense instead of you actually addressing the bs claims you made. Stellar job.
You've been posting huge numbers of flamewar comments lately. That's not what HN is for, and destroys what it is for. If you keep this up, we're going to have to ban you. I don't want to do that, so if you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules from now on, we'd appreciate it.
By the time a commenter gets to violating the site guidelines as egregiously as this, it's almost always the case that they should have stopped posting a lot sooner.
> "But you're trying to avoid letting anyone do that by saying only an attack against something in the default install you can do with a user account counts, which is absolutely ridiculous."
I don't know who "we" are. The question I asked another poster, where you decided to butt in, regarded escalation from an unprivileged position and nothing else.
Nobody but yourself said anything along the lines of "only attacks against things in the default install 'count'", nor drew drew up comparisons against "the competition". You clearly have some larger axe to grind, but you're doing it in a discourse playing out only in your head, without reading what others actually wrote.