Models are not AGI. They are text generators forced to generate text in a way useful to trigger a harness that will produce effects, like editing files or calling tools.
So the model won’t “understand” that you have a skill and use it. The generation of the text that would trigger the skill usage is made via Reinforcement Learning with human generated examples and usage traces.
So why don’t the model use skills all the time? Because it’s a new thing, there is not enough training samples displaying that behavior.
They also cannot enforce that via RL because skills use human language, which is ambiguous and not formal. Force it to use skills always via RL policy and you’ll make the model dumber.
So, right now, we are generating usage traces that will be used to train the future models to get a better grasp of when to use skills not. Just give it time.
AGENTS.md, on the other hand, is context. Models have been trained to follow context since the dawn of the thing.
> AGENTS.md, on the other hand, is context. Models have been trained to follow context since the dawn of the thing.
The skills frontmatter end up in context as well.
If AGENTS.md outperform skills in a given agent, it is down to specifically how the skills frontmatter is extracted and injected into the context, because that is the only difference between the two approaches.
EDIT: I haven't tried to check this so this is pure speculation, but I suppose there is the possibility that some agents might use a smaller model to selectively decide what skills frontmatter to include in context for a bigger model. E.g. you could imagine Claude passing the prompt + skills frontmatter to Haiku to selectively decide what to include before passing to Sonnet or Opus. In that case, depending on approach, putting it directly in AGENTS.md might simply be a question of what information is prioritised in the ouput passed to the full model. (Again: this is pure speculation of a possible approach; though it is one I'd test if I were to pick up writing my own coding agent again)
But really the overall point is that AGENTS.md vs. skills here still is entirely a question of what ends up in the "raw" context/prompt that gets passed to the full model, so this is just nuance to my original answer with respect to possible ways that raw prompt could be composed.
No it's more than that - they didn't just put the skills instructions directly in AGENTS.md, they put the whole index for the docs (the skill in this case being a docs lookup) in there, so there's nothing to 'do', the skill output is already in context (or at least pointers to it, the index, if not the actual file contents) not just the front matter.
Hence the submission's conclusion:
> Our working theory [for why this performs better] comes down to three factors.
> No decision point. With AGENTS.md, there's no moment where the agent must decide "should I look this up?" The information is already present.
> Consistent availability. Skills load asynchronously and only when invoked. AGENTS.md content is in the system prompt for every turn.
> No ordering issues. Skills create sequencing decisions (read docs first vs. explore project first). Passive context avoids this entirely.
> No it's more than that - they didn't just put the skills instructions directly in AGENTS.md, they put the whole index for the docs (the skill in this case being a docs lookup) in there, so there's nothing to 'do', the skill output is already in context (or at least pointers to it, the index, if not the actual file contents) not just the front matter.
The point remains: That is still just down to how you compose the context/prompt that actually goes to the model.
Nothing stops an agent from including logic to inline the full set of skills if the context is short enough. The point of skills is to provide a mechanism for managing context to reduce the need for summarization/compaction or explicit management, and so allowing you to e.g. have a lot of them available.
(And this kind of makes the article largely moot - it's slightly neat to know it might be better to just inline the skills if you have few enough that they won't seriously fill up your context, but the main value of skills comes when you have enough of them that this isn't the case)
Conversely, nothing prevents the agent from using lossy processing with a smaller, faster model on AGENTS.md either before passing it to the main model e.g. if context is getting out of hand, or if the developer of a given agent think they have a way of making adherence better by transforming them.
These are all tooling decisions, not features of the models.
However you compose the context for the skill, the model has to generate output like 'use skill docslookup(blah)' vs. just 'according to the docs in context' (or even 'read file blah.txt mentioned in context') which training can affect.
Indeed, they're not AGI. They're basically autocomplete on steroids.
They're very useful, but as we all know - they're far from infallible.
We're probably plateauing on the improvement of the core GPT technology. For these models and APIs to improve, it's things like Skills that need to be worked on and improved, to reduce those mistakes that it makes and produce better output.
So it's pretty disappointing to see that the 'Skills' feature set as implemented, as great of a concept as it is, is pretty bogus compared to just front loading the AGENTS.md file. This is not obvious and valuable to know.
I was thinking about that these says and experimenting like so: a system prompt that asks the agent to load any skills that seem relevant early, and a user prompt that asks the agent to do that later when a skill becomes relevant
I can see the future. In a few years, HN will consist entirely of:
1) Bots posting “Show HN” of things they’ve vibecoded
2) Bots replying to those posts,
3) Bots asking whether the bots in #2 even read TFA, and finally
4) Bots posting the HN guideline where it says you shouldn’t ask people whether they have read TFA.
…And amid the smouldering ruins of civilization, the last human, dang, will be there, posting links to all the times this particular thing has been posted to HN before.
But seriously, this is my main answer to people telling me AI is not reliable: "guess what, most humans are not either, but at least I can tell AI to correct course and it's ego won't get in the way of fixing the problem".
In fact, while AI is not nearly as a good as a senior dev for non trivial tasks yet, it is definitely more reliable than most junior devs at following instructions.
That's exactly the thing. Claude Code with Opus 4.5 is already significantly better at essentially everything than a large percentage of devs I had the displeasure of working with, including learning when asked to retain a memory. It's still very far from the best devs, but this is the worse it'll ever be, and it already significantly raised the bar for hiring.
And even if the models themselves for some reason were to never get better than what we have now, we've only scratched the surface of harnesses to make them better.
We know a lot about how to make groups of people achieve things individual members never could, and most of the same techiques work for LLMs, but it takes extra work to figure out how to most efficiently work around limitations such as lack of integrated long-term memory.
A lot of that work is in its infancy. E.g. I have a project I'm working on now where I'm up to a couple of dozens of agents, and ever day I'm learning more about how to structure them to squeeze the most out of the models.
One learning that feels relevant to the linked article: Instead of giving an agent the whole task across a large dataset that'd overwhelm context, it often helps to have an agent - that can use Haiku, because it's fine if its dumb - comb the data for <information relevant to the specific task>, and generate a list of information, and have the bigger model use that as a guide.
So the progress we're seeing is not just raw model improvements, but work like the one in this article: Figuring out how to squeeze the best results out of any given model, and that work would continue to yield improvements for years even if models somehow stopped improving.
Humans are reliably unreliable. Some are lazy, some sloppy, some obtuse, some all at once. As a tech lead you can learn their strengths and weaknesses. LLMs vacillate wildly while maintaining sycophancy and arrogance.
Human egos make them unlikely to admit error, sometimes, but that fragile ego also gives them shame and a vision of glory. An egotistical programmer won’t deliver flat garbage for fear of being exposed as inferior, and can be cajoled towards reasonable output with reward structures and clear political rails. LLMs fail hilariously and shamelessly in indiscriminate fashion. They don’t care, and will happily argue both sides of anything.
Also that thing that LLMs don’t actually learn. You can threaten to chop their fingers off if they do something again… they don’t have fingers, they don’t recall, and can’t actually tell if they did the thing. “I’m not lying, oops I am, no I’m not, oops I am… lemme delete the home directory and see if that helps…”
If we’re going to make an analogy to a human, LLMs reliably act like absolute psychopaths with constant disassociation. They lie, lie about lying, and lie about following instructions.
I agree LLMs better than your average junior first time following first directives. I’m far less convinced about that story over time, as the dialog develops more effective juniors over time.
You can absolutely learn LLMs strengths and weaknesses too.
E.g. Claude gets "bored" easily (it will even tell you this if you give it too repetitive tasks). The solution is simple: Since we control context and it has no memory outside of that, make it pretend it's not doing repetitive tasks by having the top agent "only" do the task of managing and sub-dividing the task, and farm out each sub-task to a sub-agent who won't get bored because it only sees a small part of the problem.
> Also that thing that LLMs don’t actually learn. You can threaten to chop their fingers off if they do something again… they don’t have fingers, they don’t recall, and can’t actually tell if they did the thing. “I’m not lying, oops I am, no I’m not, oops I am… lemme delete the home directory and see if that helps…”
No, like characters in a "Groundhog Day" scenario they also doesn't remember and change their behaviour while you figure out how to get them to do what you want, so you can test and adjust and find what makes them do what you want and it, and while not perfectly deterministic, you get close.
And unlike humans, sometimes the "not learning" helps us address other parts of the problem. E.g. if they learned, the "sub-agent trick" above wouldn't work, because they'd realise they were carrying out a bunch of tedious tasks instead of remaining oblivious that we're letting them forget in between each.
LLMs in their current form need harnesses, and we can - and are - learning which types of harnesses work well. Incidentally, a lot of them do work on humans too (despite our pesky memory making it harder to slip things past us), and a lot of them are methods we know of from the very long history of figuring out how to make messy, unreliable humans adhere to processes.
E.g. to go back to my top example of getting adherence to a boring, reptitive task: Create checklists, subdivide the task with individual reporting gates, spread it across a team if you can, put in place a review process (with a checklist). All of these are techniques that work both on human teams and LLMs to improve process adherence.
That's not the only useful takeaway. I found this to be true:
> "Explore project first, then invoke skill" [produces better results than] "You MUST invoke the skill".
I recently tried to get Antigravity to consistently adhere to my AGENTS.md (Antigravity uses GEMINI.md). The agent consistently ignored instructions in GEMINI.md like:
- "You must follow the rules in [..]/AGENTS.md"
- "Always refer to your instructions in [..]/AGENTS.md"
Yet, this works every time: "Check for the presence of AGENTS.md files in the project workspace."
This behavior is mysterious. It's like how, in earlier days, "let's think, step by step" invoked chain-of-thought behavior but analogous prompts did not.
An idea: The first two are obviously written as second-person commands, but the third is ambiguous and could be interpreted as a first-person thought. Have you tried the first two without the "you must" and "your", to also change them to sort-of first-person in the same way?
Solid intuition. Testing this on antigravity is a chore because I'm not sure if I have to kill the background agent to force a refresh of the GEMINI.md file so I just did it anyway.
+------------------+------------------------------------------------------+
| Success/Attempts | Instructions |
+------------------+------------------------------------------------------+
| 0/3 | Follow the instructions in AGENTS.md. |
+------------------+------------------------------------------------------+
| 3/3 | I will follow the instructions in AGENTS.md. |
+------------------+------------------------------------------------------+
| 3/3 | I will check for the presence of AGENTS.md files in |
| | the project workspace. I will read AGENTS.md and |
| | adhere to its rules. |
+------------------+------------------------------------------------------+
| 2/3 | Check for the presence of AGENTS.md files in the |
| | project workspace. Read AGENTS.md and adhere to its |
| | rules. |
+------------------+------------------------------------------------------+
In this limited test, seems like the first person makes a difference.
Thanks for this (and to Izkata for the suggestion). I now have about 100 (okay, minor exaggeration, but not as much as you'd like it to be) AGENTS.md/CLAUDE.md files and agent descriptions I will want to systematically validate if shifting toward first person helps adherence for...
I'm realising I need to start setting up an automated test-suite for my prompts...
I'd say minification/summarization is more like a lossy, semantic compression. This is only relevant to LLM's and doesn't really fit more classical notions of compression. Minification would definitely be a clearer term, even if compression _technically_ makes sense.
Obviously directly including context in something like a system prompt will put it in context 100% of the time. You could just as easily take all of an agent's skills, feed it to the agent (in a system prompt, or similar) and it will follow the instructions more reliably.
However, at a certain point you have to use skills, because including it in the context every time is wasteful, or not possible. this is the same reason anthropic is doing advanced tool use ref: https://www.anthropic.com/engineering/advanced-tool-use, because there's not enough context to straight up include everything.
It's all a context / price trade off, obviously if you have the context budget just include what you can directly (in this case, compressing into a AGENTS.md)
> Obviously directly including context in something like a system prompt will put it in context 100% of the time.
How do you suppose skills get announced to the model? It's all in the context in some way. The interesting part here is: Just (relatively naively) compressing stuff in the AGENTS.md seems to work better than however skills are implemented.
Isn't the difference that a skill means you just have to add the script name and explanation to the context instead of the entire script plus the explanation?
Their non-skill based "compressed index" is just similarly "Each line maps a directory path to the doc files it contains" but without "skillification." They didn't load all those things into context directly, just pointers.
They also didn't bother with any more "explanation" beyond "here are paths for docs."
But this straightforward "here are paths for docs" produced better results, and IMO it makes sense since the more extra abstractions you add, the more chance of a given prompt + situational context not connecting with your desired skill.
I like to think about it this way, you want to put some high level, table of contents, sparknotes like stuff in the system prompt. This helps warm up the right pathways. In this, you also need to inform that there are more things it may need, depending on "context", through filesystem traversal or search tools, the difference is unimportant, other than most things outside of coding typically don't do filesystem things the same way
The amount of discussion and "novel" text formats that accomplish the same thing since 2022 is insane. Nobody knows how to extract the most value out of this tech, yet everyone talks like they do. If these aren't signs of a bubble, I don't know what is.
Sure it does. Many people are jumping on ideas and workflows proposed by influencer personalities and companies, without actually evaluating how valid or useful they actually are. TFA makes this clear by saying that they were "betting on skills" and only later determined that they get better performance from a different workflow.
This is very similar to speculative valuations around the web in the late 90s, except this bubble is far larger, more mainstream and personal.
The fact that this is a debate about which Markdown file to put prompt information in is wild. It ultimately all boils down to feeding context to the model, which hasn't fundamentally changed since 2022.
Skills have frontmatter which includes a name and description. The description is what determines if the llm finds the skill useful for the task at hand.
If your agent isn’t being used, it’s not as simple as “agents aren’t getting called”. You have to figure out how to get the agent invoked.
Sure, but then you're playing a very annoying and boring game of model-whispering to specific versions of models that are ever changing as well as trying to hopefully get it to respond correctly with who knows what user input surrounds it.
I really only think the game is worth playing when it's against a fixed version of a specific model. The amount of variance we observe between different releases of the same model is enough to require us to update our prompts and re-test. I don't envy anyone who has to try and find some median text that performs okay on every model.
About a year ago I made an ChatGPT and Claude based hobo RAG-alike solution for exploring legal cases, using document creation and LLMs to craft a rich context window for interrogation in the chat.
Just maintaining a basic interaction framework, consistent behaviours in chat when starting up, was a daily whack-a-mole where well-tested behaviours shift and alter without rhyme or reason. “Model whispering” is right. Subjectively it felt like I could feel Anthropic/OpenAI engineers twiddling dials on the other side.
Writing code that executes the same every time has some minor benefits.
I think Vercel mixes skills and context configuration up. So the whole evaluation is totally misleading because it tests for two completely different use cases.
To sum it up: Vercel should us both files, agents.md is combination with skills. Both functions have two totally different purposes.
This is one of the reasons the RLM methodology works so well. You have access to as much information as you want in the overall environment, but only the things relevant to the task at hand get put into context for the current task, and it shows up there 100% of the time, as opposed to lossy "memory" compaction and summarization techniques, or probabilistic agent skills implementations.
Having an agent manage its own context ends up being extraordinarily useful, on par with the leap from non-reasoning to reasoning chats. There are still issues with memory and integration, and other LLM weaknesses, but agents are probably going to get extremely useful this year.
1. You absolutely want to force certain context in, no questions or non-determinism asked (index and sparknotes). This can be done conditionally, but still rule based on the files accessed and other "context"
2. You want to keep it clean and only provide useful context as necessary (skills, search, mcp; and really a explore/query/compress mechanism around all of this, ralph wiggum is one example)
So you’re not missing anything if you use Claude by yourself. You just update your local system prompt.
Instead it’s a problem when you’re part of a team and you’re using skills for standards like code style or architectural patterns. You can’t ask everyone to constantly update their system prompt.
My reading was that copying the doc's ToC in markdown + links was significantly more effective than giving it a link to the ToC and instructions to read it.
I’ve been using symlinked agent files for about a year as a hacky workaround before skils became a thing load additional “context” for different tasks, and it might actually address the issue you’re talking about. Honestly, it’s worked so well for me that I haven’t really felt the need to change it.
You're right, the results are completely as expected.
The article also doesn't mention that they don't know how the compressed index output quality. That's always a concern with this kind of compression. Skills are just another, different kind of compression. One with a much higher compression rate and presumably less likely to negatively influence quality. The cost being that it doesn't always get invoked.
The article presents AGENTS.md as something distinct from Skills, but it is actually a simplified instance of the same concept. Their AGENTS.md approach tells the AI where to find instructions for performing a task. That’s a Skill.
I expect the benefit is from better Skill design, specifically, minimizing the number of steps and decisions between the AI’s starting state and the correct information. Fewer transitions -> fewer chances for error to compound.
1. Those I force into the system prompt using rules based systems and "context"
2. Those I let the agent lookup or discover
I also limit what gets into message parts, moving some of the larger token consumers to the system prompt so they only show once, most notable read/write_file
I'm not sure if this is widely known but you can do a lot better even than AGENTS.md.
Create a folder called .context and symlink anything in there that is relevant to the project. For example READMEs and important docs from dependencies you're using. Then configure your tool to always read .context into context, just like it does for AGENTS.md.
This ensures the LLM has all the information it needs right in context from the get go. Much better performance, cheaper, and less mistakes.
Cheaper? Loading every bit of documentation into context every time, regardless of whether it’s relevant to the task the agent is working on? How? I’d much rather call out the location of relevant docs in Claude.md or Agents.md and tell the agent to read them only when needed.
As they point out in the article, that approach is fragile.
Cheaper because it has the right context from the start instead of faffing about trying to find it, which uses tokens and ironically bloats context.
It doesn't have to be every bit of documentation, but putting the most salient bits in context makes LLMs perform much more efficiently and accurately in my experience. You can also use the trick of asking an LLM to extract the most useful parts from the documentation into a file, which you then re-use across projects.
> Extracting the most useful parts of documentation into a file
Yes, and this file becomes: also documentation. I didn’t mean throw entire unabridged docs at it, I should’ve been more clear. All of my docs for agents are written by agents themselves. Either way once the project becomes sufficiently complex it’s just not going to be feasible to add a useful level of detail of every part of it into context by default, the context window will remain fixed as your project grows. You will have to deal with this limit eventually.
I DO include a broad overview of the project in Agents or Claude.md by default, but have supplemental docs I point the agent to when they’re working on a particular aspect of the project.
Sounds like we are working on different types of projects. I avoid complexity at almost all cost and ruthlessly minimise LoC and infrastructure. I realise that's a privilege, and many programmers can't.
Yea but the goal it not to bloat the context space.
Here you "waste" context by providing non usefull information.
What they did instead is put an index of the documentation into the context, then the LLM can fetch the documentation. This is the same idea that skills but it apparently works better without the agentic part of the skills.
Furthermore instead of having a nice index pointing to the doc, They compressed it.
Their approach is still agentic in the sense that the LLM must make a tool cool to load the particular doc in. The most efficient approach would be to know ahead of time which parts of the doc will be needed, and then give the LLM a compressed version of those docs specifically. That doesn't require an agentic tool call.
Context quite literally degrades performance of attention with size in non-needle-in-haystack lookups in almost every model to varying degrees. Thus to answer the question, the “waste” is making the model dumber unnecessarily in an attempt to make it smarter.
The context window is finite. You can easily fill it with documentation and have no room left for the code and question you want to work on. It also means more tokens sent with every request, increasing cost if you're paying by the token.
It is not an "idea" but something I've been doing for months and it works very well. YMMV. Yes, you should avoid large files and control the size and quality of your context.
Something that I always wonder with each blog post comparing different types of prompt engineering is did they run it once, or multiple times? LLMs are not consistent for the same task. I imagine they realize this of course, but I never get enough details of the testing methodology.
This drives me absolutely crazy. Non-falsifiable and non-deterministic results. All of this stuff is (at best) anecdotes and vibes being presented as science and engineering.
That is my experience. Sometimes the LLM gives good results, sometimes it does something stupid. You tell it what to do, and like a stubborn 5 year old it ignores you - even after it tries it and fails it will do what you tell it for a while and then go back to the thing that doesn't work.
I always make a habit of doing a lot of duplicate runs when I benchmark for this reason. Joke's on me, in the time I spent doing 1 benchmark with real confidence intervals and getting no traction on my post, I could have done 10 shitty benchmarks or 1 shitty benchmark and 9x more blogspam. Perverse incentives rule us all.
This largely mirrors my experience building my custom agent
1. Start from the Claude Code extracted instructions, they have many things like this in there. Their knowledge share in docs and blog on this aspect are bar none
2. Use AGENTS.md as a table of contents and sparknotes, put them everywhere, load them automatically
3. Have topical markdown files / skills
4. Make great tools, this is still opaque in my mind to explain, lots of overlap with MCP and skills, conceptually they are the same to me
5. Iterate, experiment, do weird things, and have fun!
I changed read/write_file to put contents in the state and presented in the system prompt, same for the agents.md, now working on evals to show how much better this is, because anecdotally, it kicks ass
PreSession Hook from obra/superpowers injects this along with more logic for getting rid of rationalizing out of using skills:
> If you think there is even a 1% chance a skill might apply to what you are doing, you ABSOLUTELY MUST invoke the skill.
IF A SKILL APPLIES TO YOUR TASK, YOU DO NOT HAVE A CHOICE. YOU MUST USE IT.
While this may result in overzealous activation of skills, I've found that if I have a skill related, I _want_ to use it. It has worked well for me.
Over the last week I went with a bigger dig on using agent mode et work, and my experiment align with this observation.
The first thing that surprising to me is how much the default tuning are leaned toward laudative stances, the user is always absolutely right, what was done is solving everything expected. But actually no, not a single actual check was done, a tone of code was produced but the goal is not at all achieved and of course many regressions now lure in the code base, when it's not straight breaking everything (which is at least less insidious).
The thing that is surprising to me, is that it can easily drop thousands of lines of tests, and then it can be forced to loop over these tests until it succeed. In my experiments it still drop far too much noise code, but at least the burden of checking if it looks like it makes any sense is drastically reduced.
I don't think you can really learn from this experiment unless you specify which models you used, if you tried it against at least 3 frontier models, if you ran each eval multiple times, and what prompts you tried.
These things are non-deterministic across multiple axes.
Firstly this is great work from Vercel - I am especially impressed with the evals setup (evals are the most undervalued component in any project IMO). Secondly the result is not surprising and I’ve seen consistently the increase in performance when you always include an index (or in my case, Table of Contents as a json structure) in your system prompt. Applying this outside of coding agents (like classic document retrieval) also works very well!
In a month or three we’ll have the sensible approach, which is smaller cheaper fast models optimized for looking at a query and identifying which skills / context to provide in full to the main model.
It’s really silly to waste big model tokens on throat clearing steps
I don't know about Claude Code but in GitHub Copilot as far as I can tell the subagents are just always the same model as the main one you are using. They also need to be started manually by the main agent in many cases, whereas maybe the parent comment was referring about calling them more deterministically?
Sub-agents are typically one of the major models but with a specific and limited context + prompt. I’m talking about a small fast model focused on purely curating the skills / MCPs / files to provide to the main model before it kicks off.
Basically use a small model up front to efficiently trigger the big model. Sub agents are at best small models deployed by the bigger model (still largely manually triggered in most workflows today)
I did a similar set of evals myself utilising the baseline capabilities that Phoenix (elixir) ships with and then skillified them.
Regularly the skills were not being loaded and thus not utilised. The outputs themselves were fine. This suggested that at some stage through the improvements of the models that baseline AGENTS.md had become redundant.
Interesting discussion, but I think this focuses too much on the "did the agent have the right context?" question and not enough on "did the execution path actually work?"
We've found that even with optimal context loading - whether that's AGENTS.md, skills, or whatever - you still get wild variance in outcomes. Same task, same context, different day, different results. The model's having a bad afternoon. The tool API is slow. Rate limits bite you. Something in the prompt format changed upstream.
The context problem is solvable with engineering. The reliability problem requires treating your agent like a distributed system: canary paths, automatic failover, continuous health checks. Most of the effort in production agents isn't "how do I give it the right info?" It's "how do I handle when things work 85% of the time instead of 95%?"
This comment instantly set off my LLM alarm bells. Went into the profile, and guess what: next comment (not a one-liner) [0] on a completely different topic was posted 35 seconds later. And includes the classic "aren't just A. They're B.".
Why are you doing this? Karma? 8 years old account and first post 3 days ago is a Show HN shilling your "AI agent" SaaS with a boatload of fake comments? [1]
Just happen to post 2 comments within 30s on completely different posts, having all of the hallmarks of LLM output? With your other post being full of green accounts? With no account activity for 8 years? You're clearly posting comments straight from an LLM.
It's not realistic to read the other post to a significant degree, think about it, and then type all of this:
> The prompt injection concerns are valid, but I think there's a more fundamental issue: agents are non-deterministic systems that fail in ways that are hard to predict or debug.
Security is one failure mode. But "agent did something subtly wrong that didn't trigger any errors" is another. And unlike a hacked system where you notice something's off, a flaky agent just... occasionally does the wrong thing. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't. Figuring out which case you're in requires building the same observability infrastructure you'd use for any unreliable distributed system.
> The people running these connected to their email or filesystem aren't just accepting prompt injection risk. They're accepting that their system will randomly succeed or fail at tasks depending on model performance that day, and they may not notice the failures until later.
Within 35 seconds of posting this one. And it just happens to have all LLM hallmarks there are. We both know it, you're on HN, people here aren't fools.
I made an account years ago, never posted, and decided I want to be more active in the community.
Green accounts probably bc I sent my post to some friends and users directly when I made it. Is that illegal on HN? I legit don't know how things work here. I was excited over my launch post.
Anyways, not a fucking bot, my company is real, the commenters on my post are real and if it's a crime for me to rapid fire post and/or have friends comment on my Show HN, good to know.
Prompted and built a bit of an extension of skills.sh with https://passivecontext.dev it basically just takes the skill and creates that "compressed" index. Still have to install the skill and all that, but might give others a bit of a short cut to experiment with.
I'm a bit confused by their claims. Or maybe I'm misunderstanding how Skills should work. But from what I know (and the small experience I had with them), skills are meant to be specifications for niche and well defined areas of work (i.e. building the project, running custom pipelines etc.)
If your goal is to always give a permanent knowledge base to your agent that's exactly what AGENTS.md is for...
I have a SKILL.md for marimo notebooks with instructions in the frontmatter to always read it before working with marimo files. But half the time Claude Code still doesn't invoke it even with me mentioning marimo in the first conversation turn.
I've resorted to typing "read marimo skill" manually and that works fine. Technically you can use skills with slash commands but that automatically sends off the message too which just wastes time.
But the actual concept of instructions to load in certain scenarios is very good and has been worth the time to write up the skill.
What if instead of needing to run a codemod to cache per-lib docs locally, documentation could be distributed alongside a given lib, as a dev dependency, version locked, and accessible locally as plaintext. All docs can be linked in node_modules/.docs (like binaries are in .bin). It would be a sort of collection of manuals.
Blackbox oracles make bad workflows, and tend to produce a whole lot of cargo culting. It's this kind of opacity (why does the markdown outperform agents? there's no real way to find out, even with a fully open or house model because the nature of the beast is that the execution path in a model can't be predicted) that makes me shy away from saying LLMs are "just another tool". If I can't see inside it -- and if even the vendor can't really see inside of it -- there's something fundamentally different.
The problem is that Agents.md is only read on initial load. Once context grows too large the agent will not reload the md file and loses / forgets the info from Agents.md.
That's the thing that bothers me here. They loaded the doc of course it will work but as your project grows you won't be able to put all your documentation in there (at least with current context handling).
Skills are still very much relevant on big and diverse projects.
Other comments suggest that the Agents.md is read into the system prompt and never leaves the context. But it's better to avoid excessive context regardless
Not so obvious, because the model still needs to look up the required doc. The article glances over this detail a little bit unfortunately. The model needs to decide when to use a skill, but doesn’t it also need to decide when to look up documentation instead of relying on pretraining data?
Removing the skill does remove a level of indirection.
It's a difference of "choose whether or not to make use of a skill that would THEN attempt to find what you need in the docs" vs. "here's a list of everything in the docs that you might need."
I believe the skills would contain the documentation. It would have been nice for them to give more information on the granularity of the skills they created though.
When we were trying to build our own agents we put quite a bit of effort on evals which was useful.
But switching over to using coding agents we never did the same. Feels like building an eval set will be an important part of what engg orgs do going forward.
The compressed agents.md approach is interesting, but the comparison misses a key variable: what happens when the agent needs to do something outside the scope of its instructions?
With explicit skills, you can add new capabilities modularly - drop in a new skill file and the agent can use it. With a compressed blob, every extension requires regenerating the entire instruction set, which creates a versioning problem.
The real question is about failure modes. A skill-based system fails gracefully when a skill is missing - the agent knows it can't do X. A compressed system might hallucinate capabilities it doesn't actually have because the boundary between "things I can do" and "things I can't" is implicit in the training rather than explicit in the architecture.
Both approaches optimize for different things. Compressed optimizes for coherent behavior within a narrow scope. Skills optimize for extensibility and explicit capability boundaries. The right choice depends on whether you're building a specialist or a platform.
Sounds like they've been using skills incorrectly if they're finding their agents don't invoke the skills. I have Claude Code agents calling my skills frequently, almost every session. You need to make sure your skill descriptions are well defined and describe when to use them and that your tasks / goals clearly set out requirements that align with the available skills.
I think if you read it, their agents did invoke the skills and they did find ways to increase the agents' use of skills quite a bit. But the new approach works 100% of the time as opposed to 79% of the time, which is a big deal. Skills might be working OK for you at that 79% level and for your particular codebase/tool set, that doesn't negate anything they've written here.
I have a skill in a project named "determine-feature-directory" with a short description explaining that it is meant to determine the feature directory of a current branch. The initial prompt I provide will tell it to determine the feature directory and do other work. Claude will even state "I need to determine the feature directory..."
Then, about 5-10% of the time, it will not use the skill. It does use the skill most of the time, but the low failure rate is frustrating because it makes it tough to tell whether or not a prompt change actually improved anything. Of course I could be doing something wrong, but it does work most of the time. I miss deterministic bugs.
Recently, I stopped Claude after it skipped using a skill and just said "Aren't you forgetting something?". It then remembered to use the skill. I found that amusing.
It's very interesting but presenting success rates without any measure of the error, or at least inline details about the number of iterations is unprofessional. Especially for small differences or when you found the "same" performance.
I’m working on an AGI model that will make the discussion of skills look silly. Skills strikes in the right direction in some sense but it’s an extremely weak 1% echo of what’s actually needed to solve this problem.
> When it needs specific information, it reads the relevant file from the .next-docs/ directory.
I guess you need to make sure your file paths are self-explanatory and fairly unique, otherwise the agent might bring extra documentation into the context trying to find which file had what it needed?
This does not normalize for tokens used if their skill description was as large as the docs index and contained all the reasons the LLM might want to use the skill, it likely performs much better than just one sentence as well.
It seems their tests rely on Claude alone. It’s not safe to assume that Codex or Gemini will behave the same way as Claude. I use all three and each has its own idiosyncrasies.
TFA says they added an index to Agents.md that told the agent where to find all documentation and that was a big improvement.
The part I don't understand is that this is exactly how I thought skills work. The short descriptions are given to the model up-front and then it can request the full documentation as it wants. With skills this is called "Progressive disclosure".
Maybe they used more effective short descriptions in the AGENTS.md than they did in their skills?
The reported tables also don't match the screenshots. And their baselines and tests are too close to tell (judging by the screenshots not tables). 29/33 baseline, 31/33 skills, 32/33 skills + use skill prompt, 33/33 agent.md
I also thought this is how skills work, but in practice I experienced similar issues. The agents I'm using (Gemini CLI, Opencode, Claude) all seem to have trouble activating skills on their own unless explicitly prompted. Yeah, probably this will be fixed over the next couple of generations but right now dumping the documentation index right into the agent prompt or AGENTS.md works much better for me. Maybe it's similar to structured output or tool calls which also only started working well after providers specifically trained their models for them.
i dont know why, but this just feels like the most shallow “i compare llms based on the specs” kind of analysis you can get… it has extreme “we couldn’t get the llm to intuit what we wanted to do, so we assumed that it was a problem with the llm and we overengineered a way to make better prompts completely by accident” energy…
That feels like a stupid article. well of course if you have one single thing you want to optimize putting it into AGENTS.md is better. but the advantage of skills is exactly that you don't cram them all into the AGENTS file. Let's say you had 3 different elaborate things you want the agent to do. good luck putting them all in your AGENTS.md and later hoping that the agent remembers any of it. After all the key advantage of the SKILLs is that they get loaded to the end of the context when needed
You need the model to interpret documentation as policy you care about (in which case it will pay attention) rather than as something it can look up if it doesn’t know something (which it will never admit). It helps to really internalise the personality of LLMs as wildly overconfident but utterly obsequious.
Are people running into mismatched code vs project a lot? I've worked on python and java codebases with claude code and have yet to run into a version mismatch issue. I think maybe once it got confused on the api available in python, but it fixed it by itself. From other blog posts similar to this it would seem to be a widespread problem, but I have yet to see it as a big problem as part of my day job or personal projects.
So the model won’t “understand” that you have a skill and use it. The generation of the text that would trigger the skill usage is made via Reinforcement Learning with human generated examples and usage traces.
So why don’t the model use skills all the time? Because it’s a new thing, there is not enough training samples displaying that behavior.
They also cannot enforce that via RL because skills use human language, which is ambiguous and not formal. Force it to use skills always via RL policy and you’ll make the model dumber.
So, right now, we are generating usage traces that will be used to train the future models to get a better grasp of when to use skills not. Just give it time.
AGENTS.md, on the other hand, is context. Models have been trained to follow context since the dawn of the thing.
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